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303 | Other | Definite Bug | 3.70 RC7 | Defer | Very Low | wrong bit depth reported for OpenEXR file format | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
When using OpenEXR output file format, POV-Ray erroneously reports it as “24 bpp EXR” in the message output, while in fact it generates a 3×16 = 48 bpp file.
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323 | User interface | Possible Bug | 3.70 release | Very Low | Very Low | Tooltip for render speed status bar has wrong unit | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
Tooltip popup for render speed always displays as “Pixels per Second” rather than matching status bar. I’ve noticed it in 3 renders so far. Most of my renders are fast enough not to see any other unit besides PPS, but I should be able to reproduce again if necessary.
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133 | Geometric Primitives | Feature Request | 3.70 beta 37a | Defer | Very Low | Subdivision support | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
Someone built a version of Povray with internal support for automatic subdivision of meshes. See:
http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~xwu/Pov-Sub/
Would like to see this feature added natively to Povray.
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20 | User interface | Feature Request | 3.70 beta 32 | Very Low | Very Low | render window behavior | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
When changing the behavior of the render window, “Keep above main”, requires restarting the POV editor to take effect. It would be nice either to get a warning to restart, or to get it to work without restarting.
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300 | Other | Feature Request | 3.70 RC7 | Defer | Very Low | Reference Documentation Support | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
As emerged as an idea during the discussion of FS#299, an SDL / POV-Ray editor feature would be useful that allows API documentation via formal comments, e.g. in include files:
/**
* Creates a car object.
* @param a
* description of param a
* ...
*/
#macro car(a,b,c)
...
#end
In addition to the ability of (auto-)generating a documentation file from such comments, an editor window feature would be convenient that allows popup display of a macro’s (object’s / parameter’s / ...) documentation section.
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99 | Refactoring/Cleanup | Unimp. Feature/TODO | 3.70 beta 36 | Defer | Very Low | Refactor engine (front- & back-end) code for Unicode su... | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
Front- & Back-end code should be refactored for full Unicode support in scene files and strings.
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272 | Other | Feature Request | 3.70 RC6 | Defer | Very Low | Minor change, significant speedup in cubic polynomial s... | Tracked on GitHub | |
3.71 release |
Task Description
While familiarizing myself with the code, I found some small changes in the solve_cubic function that lead to a significant speedup.
In my experience, “pow” is by far the slowest function in math.h and replacing it with simpler functions usually makes a tremendous impact on the speed (it’s an order of magnitude slower than sqrt/exp/cbrt/log).
solve_cubic has a “pow” function that can be replaced by cbrt (cubic root), which is standard in ISO-C99 and should be available on all systems. Separate benchmarks of solve_cubic function show this change almost doubles the speed and does not lower the accuracy. As solve_cubic is part of the solution of quartic equation, this improves the speed for many primitives. Testing with a scene containing many torus intersection tests (attached below) I still observed almost 10% speedup (Intel, 4 threads, 2 hyperthreaded cores, antialiasing on, 600×600: from 91 to 84 seconds). And this is for a torus, where a lot of time is spent in the solve_quartic and cubic solver is only called once! Similar speedup should be expected for prism, ovus, sor and blob.
I do believe the cubic solver can be done without trigonometry, but that would mean changing the algorithm, introducing new bugs and requiring a lot of testing. However, the trigonometric evaluation can still be simplified (3% speedup in full torus benchmark).
These changes don’t affect the algorithm at all, they are mathematically identical to the existing code, so the changes can be applied immediately. I also included other changes just as suggestions. Every change is commented and marked with [SC 2.2013].
This sadly does not speedup the sturm solver, which uses bisection and regula-falsi and looks very optimized already.
The test scene I used has a lot of torus intersections from various directions (shadow rays, main rays, transmitted rays).
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129 | Parser/SDL | Feature Request | 3.70 beta 37a | Defer | Very Low | Hash arrays | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
Currently, array items may only be referenced by their index number (an integer). It would be nice to also be able to assign string values as array indexes, as in other scripting languages.
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237 | User interface | Definite Bug | 3.70 RC3 | Defer | Very Low | Glitch in displaying rendered pixels and percentage | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
When rendering in multiple passes (radiosity in my case), the elapsed pixels and percentage, written to terminal are first displayed like this: Rendered 126202 of 360000 pixels (35%) Then on the second stage the output text becomes shorter and you see Rendered 25344 of 360000 pixels (7%)%) The contents of the previous status are not erased, so the longer text persists (note the duplicate percentage sign and closing parenthesis). Such a glitch could have more drastic effect in rare cases.
I’m running Version 3.7.0.RC3 (g++ 4.6.2 x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) compiled for the Arch Linux package.
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242 | Other | Feature Request | All | Defer | Very Low | Algorithm to fix the so-called shadow line artifact | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
The so-called shadow line artifact (http://wiki.povray.org/content/Knowledgebase:The_Shadow_Line_Artifact) which affects objects with a ‘normal’ statement as well as smooth meshes and heightfields can be really annoying sometimes. Currently the only way to remove it is to make the object shadowless, which isn’t a good solution except in very special cases.
This algorithm could remove the artifact: If the actual normal vector of the object points away from the light source (its dot-product with the light vector is negative) but the perturbed normal points towards it (dot-product positive), then ignore the first shadow-test intersection with the object itself.
There are alternative ways of implementing an equivalent functionality:
- Don’t check the condition (if it’s too difficult to check due to how the code is designed) but always ignore the first intersection with the objects itself. This will work properly with closed surfaces but not with open ones, so it might need to be a feature for the user to turn on with a keyword (similar to eg. ‘double_illuminate’).
- Alternatively, don’t ignore the first intersection, but instead ignore the “opposite side” of the object’s surface (again, possibly only if a keyword has been specified). In other words, if we are rendering the outer side of the object, ignore its inner side when shadow-testing, and vice-versa.
- Perhaps simply add a feature to make surfaces one-sided (similarly to how they can be made so in OpenGL and similar scanline rendering systems). In other words, the inner side of a surface is completely ignored everywhere, making the object virtually invisible from the inside. The advantage of this feature would be that it can have uses other than simply removing the shadow line artifact.
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86 | Parser/SDL | Feature Request | Not applicable | Defer | Very Low | Add support for more RNG types | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
The current 32-bit linear congruential generator used as RNG in POV-Ray is sometimes quite limited for some purposes and in a few cases its poor quality shows up (as has been demonstrated more than once in the newsgroup). Thus it would be nice if POV-Ray offered additional, higher-quality random number generators, besides the current one (which should probably remain for backwards compatibility). These RNGs could include algorithms like the Mersenne Twister and the ISAAC RNG, both of which have very decent quality and have an enormous periods (while at the same time being very fast).
After a long discussion, the following syntax for specifying the RNG type and seed (which may be larger than 32 bits) has been suggested:
seed(<value>) | seed(<type>, <value> [, <values>])
For example:
#declare Seed1 = seed(123); // Use the current RNG, with seed 123
#declare Seed2 = seed(1, 123); // Identical to the previous one
#declare Seed3 = seed(2, 456, 789, 123); // Use RNG algorithm #2,
// with a large seed (96 bits specified here)
A C++ implementation of the ISAAC RNG can be found at http://warp.povusers.org/IsaacRand.zip
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87 | Geometric Primitives | Feature Request | Not applicable | Defer | Very Low | Add new feature: Reference object | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
When you instantiate an object several times, eg:
object { MyObj translate -x*10 }
object { MyObj translate x*10 }
POV-Ray will copy that object in memory, at least for most types of objects. Not for all of them, though. Most famously if MyObj is a mesh, it won’t be copied, but only a reference to the original will be used, thus saving memory. (There are a few other primitives which also don’t cause a copy, such as bicubic_patch and blob, but those are naturally not so popular as mesh, so it’s a less known fact.)
AFAIK the reason why referencing (rather than copying) is not used for all types of objects is rather complicated, and mostly related to how transformations are applied to these objects. For example if the object being instantiated is a union, the translates above will be (AFAIK) applied to the individual members of the union rather than to the union object itself.
Copying, however, can be quite detrimental in some situations. For example if you have a huge union, and you want to instantiate it many times, the memory usage will be that many times larger (compared to just one instance). This is sometimes something which the user would not want, even if it made the rendering slightly slower as a consequence. (In other words, better to be able to render the scene in the first place, rather than running out of memory.)
Redesigning POV-Ray so that all objects would be referenced rather than copied would probably be a huge job, and in some cases a questionable one. There probably are situations where the current method really produces faster rendering times, so redesigning POV-Ray so that it would always reference instead of copy, could make some scenes render slower.
So this got me thinking about an alternative approach: How hard would it be to create a special object which sole purpose is to act as a reference to another object, without copying it? This special reference object would act as any regular object, would have its own transformation matrix and all that data related to objects, but its sole purpose is to simply be a “wrapper” which references an existing object. It could be, for example, like this:
object_ref { MyObj translate -x*10 }
object_ref { MyObj translate x*10 }
The end result would be exactly identical as earlier, but the difference is that now MyObj behaves in the same way as a mesh (in the sense that it’s not instantiated twice, but only once, even though it appears twice in the scene), regardless of what MyObj is.
In some cases this might render slightly slower than the first version (because POV-Ray has to apply the transformations of the object_ref first, after which it applies whatever transformations are inside MyObj), but that’s not the point here. The point is to save memory if MyObj is large.
An object_ref would behave like any other object, so you could do things like:
#declare MyObjRef = object_ref { MyObj };
object { MyObjRef translate -x*10 }
object { MyObjRef translate x*10 }
(The only thing being instantiated (and copied) here is the “MyObjRef” object, not the object it’s referring to, so that actual object is still stored in memory only once.)
In some situations it might even be so that referenced objects actually render faster than if the objects were copied because references increase data locality, lessening cache misses.
I believe this could be a rather useful feature and should be seriously considered, unless there are some major obstacles in implementing it.
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309 | Parser/SDL | Definite Bug | 3.70 RC7 | Very Low | Low | Warning Message Missing | Tracked on GitHub | |
3.71 release |
Task Description
Draw_Vistas, Light_Buffer, and Vista_Buffer (plus associated switches) do not issue warning when used, even tho code has been disabled.
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96 | Texture/Material/Finish | Feature Request | Not applicable | Very Low | Low | User-defined warps | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
User-defined warps would be nice to have, something along the lines of:
warp {
function { MyFnX(x,y,z) } // function to compute pattern-space x-coordinate from object-space <x,y,z> coordinate
function { MyFnY(x,y,z) } // ditto for pattern-space y coordinate
function { MyFnZ(x,y,z) } // ditto for pattern-space z coordinate
}
// a displacement warp:
warp {
function { x + MyFnX(x,y,z) }
function { y + MyFnY(x,y,z) }
function { z + MyFnZ(x,y,z) }
}
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106 | Distribution | Unimp. Feature/TODO | 3.70 beta 37 | Very Low | Low | Update sample scenes and include files for POV-Ray 3.7 ... | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
Most sample scenes and include files were designed at times when POV-Ray did not to any proper gamma handling, or still used the inferior 3.6 “assumed_gamma” mechanism.
All the scenes and include files should be reviewed, and updated to fit the new 3.7 gamma model.
The primary task will probably be gamma-adjusting literal color values and ambient parameters; I suggest using macros (which ideally should be defined in an include file) to be set according to the #version statement, so the scene/include file could be kept compatible with older versions.
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282 | Image format | Feature Request | Not applicable | Defer | Low | Unrendered region should be transparent, not black | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
When rendering only a region of a file, using the command-line options +sc/+sr/+ec/+er, the area of the image that is excluded comes out as black in the final PNG.
Expected behaviour is for it to be transparent.
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269 | Texture/Material/Finish | Possible Bug | 3.70 RC6 | Very Low | Low | Transparent Objects inside Media Cause Artefacts | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
When placing a transparent object inside another object which contains media, artefacts may occur (see attached file). They look similar to specular highlights or are just strange white spots in the image.
I discovered artefacts of that kind first in the image of which MediaArtefactDetail.png is a cropped part. The code I managed to reproduce such artefacts with contained a “starfield” sphere
sphere {
<0,0,0>, 1
pigment { rgbt 1 }
interior {
media {
emission rgb 1/10
density {
crackle form <1,0,0>
density_map {
[0.0 rgb 1]
[0.05 rgb 0]
}
scale 0.002
}
}
}
scale 1000
hollow on
}
and a transparent sphere
sphere {
<0,0,0>, 1
pigment { rgbt 1 }
scale 2
hollow on
}
which is, obviously, completely inside the other sphere. So is the camera.
Since the sphere has a pigment { rgbt 1 }, it should be completely invisible, which is correctly rendered as long as the scaling factor is 1 and hollow off (MediaArtefact1.png). Changing hollow to on does not yet produce the artefact, but the right half of the output image seems to be shifted by one pixel (MediaArtefact2.png). Changing the scaling factor to 2 (as it is in the above code) produces the artefact (MediaArtefact3.png). Changing the camera location (MediaArtefact4.png) does not change anything, the artefact just “moves with the sphere”. Changing the sphere size again, however, seems to stir up the “stars” in the “starfield” sphere while not removing the artefacts (MediaArtefact5.png). Changing hollow to off again does neither (MediaArtefact6.png).
The artefacts are definitely no specular highlights. There is not even a light source in the scene that could produce any. I used POV-Ray 3.7 RC6 to render the images, but the artefact shown in MediaArtefactDetail.png already occured in POV-Ray 3.6 which I used to render that image.
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288 | Geometric Primitives | Possible Bug | 3.70 RC7 | Very Low | Low | Tolerance problem with refraction in blobs in CSG inter... | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
If a blob is intersected by something else, the composite object has incorrect refractions if it is too small (in absolute units). Having the same object constructed without a blob, the errors happen at much smaller scales. The errors don’t affect solid objects, just refractions.
An example shows a half-sphere, constructed as CSG sphere + plane, and identical half-pshere, constructed as CSG blob + plane. When the scale of the entire construction is changed, the refractions disappear first for the blob, and at 100x times smaller scale, also for the sphere. The right side shows the solid version, showing that the surface intersection test is ok, it’s just the refraction that fails.
The problem is not present when looking from the curved side (the blob side). So the ray that hits the blob, gets refracted correctly, but the ray that hits the intersecting plane first, and should then refract in the blob from the inside, doesn’t work. If in attached sphere, you exchange -y with y in clipping planes, everything is ok.
The scale when this happens is not very small - blobs of radius 0.02 already fail (noticed because in 1=1metre scale, blob raindrops on a glass plate didn’t have intersections when looking from the back).
Examples are named by factor=9,0.9,0.09,0.009 and you can see first the blob (top) refraction gets smaller and disappears, then later the bottom (sphere) also gets the same problem.
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205 | Documentation | Unimp. Feature/TODO | 3.70 RC3 | Very Low | Low | Syntax documentation uses inconsistent notation | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
The syntax notation used in the main documentation is different than that used in the quick-reference section. This should be changed for consistency, using the superior quick-reference notation throughout.
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327 | Parser/SDL | Feature Request | 3.70 release | Very Low | Low | Support for non-ASCII characters in filename strings | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
pov 3.7 Can not identify the Chinese.I give the texture map filename in chinese,it turns out parse error.
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145 | Parser/SDL | Feature Request | 3.70 beta 37a | Very Low | Low | Stack trace report on error | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
In other languages if you encounter an error you’ll often be presented with a stack trace showing not only the file and line number the error occurred at, but also any calling functions and _their_ calling functions and so on.
Currently, Povray reports the line number of the error as well as the last five or so lines prior to the error. This is usually OK in simple scenes, but breaks down when you start making use of inclusion and macros.
Let’s say you have a macro located in a file that you then include in your scene. Within your scene you call the macro multiple times, passing input to it. However, by accident you pass _invalid_ input to the macro at some point, resulting in an error when parsing. In this case Povray will report the error as belonging to the macro whereas the actual bug exists in the calling code. If the macro is called more than once in your scene it can be difficult to figure out _which_ instance is the one supplying the bad input.
Not sure how much of this is achievable in Povray.
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243 | Geometric Primitives | Unimp. Feature/TODO | All | Defer | Low | Sphere sweep behaves wrong when scaled | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
The sphere_sweep renders well when specified directly, but when it is scaled, its bounding box is calculated incorrectly, which clips the object so it almost disappears.
The effect is present for all three types of splines.
I’m attaching a test scene and the rendering result. The saving of the object with #declare has no effect, I just wanted to show both transformed and untransformed version.
I don’t think this issue is related to other artifacts occuring with sphere_sweep, as it is obviously an issue of the internal bounding box.
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91 | Texture/Material/Finish | Feature Request | 3.70 beta 36 | Defer | Low | Slope pattern applied to object is not transformed afte... | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
There is an big issue with the slope pattern: when the object it is applied to is instanced (again) with a transformation (in particular a rotation, as a translation would not impact.. but a shear might), the colours of the surfaces are changed.
object { p translate -5*x }
object { p rotate 220*y+20*x translate 3*x }
Nobody would expect the object to be different in appearance. If slope {} is replaced with wood, all is fine. (as for others textures, i guess)
IMHO, the slope vector need to be adjusted for the later transformation(s) (so as to compensate the issue of using the Perturbed Normal vector).
This should not impact the AOI/FACING (experimental) patterns, as AOI definition is pretty clear about duplicating & transform if you think about it a bit, as well as FACING: for these two, it is expected to either use the ray(current point of view) or a fixed 3D point as reference. At the limit, discussion about moving the 3D point of FACING might also be opened to interpretation.
AOI/FACING are in task #19
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326 | Other | Definite Bug | 3.70 release | Very Low | Low | restricted setting ignored in 3.7 | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
Due to a typo in the conf file parser (introduced, I think, in refactoring after 3.6), the restricted setting is ignored, and access checks aren’t performed.
Fixing this reveals some other issues:
%INSTALLDIR%/../../etc is incompletely canonicalized to /usr/local/share/../etc , not /usr/local/etc
read+write paths are added to the read list only, so writing is impossible
See attached patch.
Relatedly, I think it would be nice to add a new replacement token %CONFDIR% instead of %INSTALLDIR%/../../etc .
Also, there’s a realpath function that could simplify path handling, though I’m not sure if it’s available on all platforms.
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47 | Preview | Possible Bug | 3.70 beta 32 | Very Low | Low | Render Preveiw window can become disabled | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
If a render is continued with the +c option and the render had completed, the render preview window will disappear and the show/hide render window button will be grayed. Even after the scene is modified and the command line options have been changed, the show/hide button will still be grayed.
Opening or changing to another scene and rendering will not restore the button, nor will rendering with +d. However, if a trace is started using -d, halted, then continued using +d (or allowed to finish completely with -d and a new one is started using +d), then the preview window is restored.
This behavior is different from 3.6.1, which correctly always showed the preview window (since +d is default) unless -d was specified.
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246 | Other | Possible Bug | 3.70 RC6 | Very Low | Low | Regression on scale limit between 3.7 and previous rele... | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
From Thomas de Groot
Using the following code for a (sky) sphere in a scene, with light source well outside the sphere; works correctly until the above scale value. Use a value of >=100*10e4 and the sphere becomes black.
#version 3.7;
global_settings{ assumed_gamma 1.0 }
#declare T_sky =
texture {
pigment {
gradient y
pigment_map {
[0.0 srgb <1.0,0.7,0.6>*1 transmit 0.5]
[1.0 srgb <0.8,0.1,0.0>*1 transmit 0.5]
}
}
finish {
emission 0.9
diffuse 0.0
}
}
#declare T_cosmos =
texture {
pigment {
color rgbt <0,0,0,1>
}
finish {
ambient 0.0
diffuse 0.0
}
}
sphere {
<0,0,0>,1
texture {T_sky}
interior_texture {T_cosmos}
no_shadow
no_reflection
inverse
scale 99.9*10e4
}
Working with windows version of POV-Ray and Win7 x64
Is this normal for version 3.7 RC5? I seem to remember that with lower versions of POV-Ray on could go at least to 10e6. Especially with the Ringworld scenes back in 2010 the scales used where much larger without any black out.
I can indeed confirm that the Ringworld scene does not render correctly anymore, with identical black out.
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286 | Texture/Material/Finish | Possible Bug | 3.70 RC7 | Very Low | Low | reflection exponent other than 1 causes black artifacts... | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
[EDIT: Original title was “radiosity causing black patches when using emission less than 0”]
see attached image for reference.
mountain on left has emission set to -.13 and black patches show up, when emmission set to 0 or greater no patches
changing max_trace or any radiosity settings has no effect
setting no_radiosity on mountain fixed problem as a temp fix
code sample ...
#version 3.7;
#default { finish { ambient 0 } }
#declare rad_lvl = 4;
global_settings {
assumed_gamma 1
max_trace_level max(5,rad_lvl*3)
adc_bailout .007
ambient_light 0
radiosity {
pretrace_start 64/max(image_width,image_height)
#if(rad_lvl)
pretrace_end max(2,int(8/rad_lvl))/max(image_width,image_height)
#else
pretrace_end 32/max(image_width,image_height)
#end
count pow(rad_lvl+1,2)*10
nearest_count 1
#if(rad_lvl) error_bound 1/rad_lvl #end
low_error_factor max(.4,(8-rad_lvl)/10)
recursion_limit 1
gray_threshold .25
brightness 1
max_sample 1
normal on
media off
always_sample off
minimum_reuse min(.008,8/max(image_width,image_height))
maximum_reuse .1
adc_bailout .02
}
}
#declare sunC = rgb <1, 1, .9925>; // actual D65 standard illuminant
#declare SkyC = rgb <.3195, .5745, .8805>;
#macro GammaAdj(C,G) rgb <pow(C.red,G),pow(C.green,G),pow(C.blue,G)> #end
light_source {
50000*y
sunC*1.06
area_light <-300, 0, -300>, <300, 100, 300>, 3, 3
rotate <-28, 0, 14>
adaptive 0
circular
}
sphere { 0, 1
texture {
pigment{
gradient y
pigment_map{
[.07 GammaAdj(SkyC,.5)]
[.2 average pigment_map { [.5 GammaAdj(SkyC,.75)][1 wrinkles turbulence .65 octaves 5 lambda 3 omega .9 color_map { [.2 rgb 1][.5 SkyC] } scale <10, .1, 1>] }]
[.4 GammaAdj(SkyC,1.15)]
[.5 GammaAdj(SkyC,1.35)]
}
rotate -75*y scale <1, 1, 100>
}
finish { diffuse .72 }
}
scale 100000
inverse
}
#declare Cam_pos = Cam_pos + <0, 20, -40>;
#declare Cam_lkt = Cam_lkt + <0, 10, 50>;
camera {
location Cam_pos
direction <0,0,1>
right 1.33*x
up y
sky <0,1,0>
#if(Cam_agl) angle Cam_agl #end
look_at Cam_lkt
}
#macro sinai(HillQ)
#local F = function { pattern { granite poly_wave 4 turbulence .01 lambda 2.1 omega .9 scale 5 translate <.2, 0, 18.08> scale <2, 1, 3> } }
#local N = function { pigment { crackle ramp_wave turbulence .3 lambda 2.2 omega .76 color_map {[0 rgb 0][1 rgb 1] } scale .07 translate <-.15, -.12, .13> } }
height_field {
function HillQ, HillQ { F(x,y,z) + N(x,y,z).grey/47 }
water_level .05
clipped_by { box { <0, .05, .3>, <1, 1, 1> } }
translate <-.5, -.05, -.5>
rotate 20*y
texture {
pigment{ crackle color_map { [0 rgb <161, 107, 71>/255][.25 rgb <193, 132, 93>/255][.35 rgb <218, 163, 123>/255][.45 rgb <212, 153, 112>/255][.55 rgb <222, 166, 125>/255][.65 rgb <236, 178, 124>/255][.75 rgb <220, 154, 102>/255][.85 rgb <160, 121, 103>/255] } turbulence .75 lambda 3 omega .7 scale .1 }
finish{ diffuse albedo .56 emission -.13 specular .25 roughness .02 brilliance 1.5 metallic 1.3 }
normal { crackle poly_wave .7 turbulence .4 omega .8 scale <.007, .03, .007> }
}
rotate 12*y
scale <2400, 2000, 3000>*1.5
translate <1900, 0, 1900>
scale <-1,1,1>
no_radiosity
}
#end
sinai(1600)
plane { y,0 pigment { rgb <1, 1, 1> } }
//courtyard gating not included due to size of code and many external files needed. add anything around <0,0,0> to try to reproduce effect of error
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172 | Image format | Unimp. Feature/TODO | 3.70 beta 39 | Very Low | Low | Re-implement progressive image output | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
With previous versions of POV-Ray, it was possible to turn off display output, but still assess the output during render by viewing the output file as it was progressively generated. This allowed e.g. to run a long render on a remote machine as a background process, and check the output from time to time via FTP or similar.
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71 | User interface | Unimp. Feature/TODO | 3.70 beta 34 | Very Low | Low | raise warning when command line option has no effect | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
Warnings should be raised when a command line option has no effect, for example...
pvengine +am
is legal, but without the number after it, it has no effect.
pvengine +am7
should be an error, and also raises no warnings.
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245 | Other | Feature Request | All | Defer | Low | POVMS message queue can fill up with GB of data for ver... | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
With very fast renders and very large output files, the message queue can fill up because the producers are not limited by IO, while the consumer performance is limited by disk IO. Consequently, the message queue can fill up to exhaust all available memory. The solution is to build in some better control of pending output data in the message queue on the producer side. This will also pave the way for message communication over slow links (i.e. a network).
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293 | User interface | Possible Bug | 3.70 RC7 | Very Low | Low | POV-Ray Shown Twice in Windows Taskbar | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
When rendering for some time, it occasionally happens that POV-Ray appears twice in the Windows taskbar. One button is the normal one, the other one does not open any window when clicked on and reads something like “99% complete” (see attached image), like the render window’s title, but obviously unrelated to it (probably the title the render window had shortly before?). After stopping the render, the odd taskbar button remains there until POV-Ray is closed.
Observed under Windows XP
POV-Ray 3.7.0.RC7.msvc10-sse2.win32
When applications are summarized into groups in the taskbar by Windows, the odd POV-Ray button is attached to the Windows Explorer group
Run with render priority set to “high”
Is this a Bug in Windows or in POV-Ray?
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252 | Photons | Definite Bug | 3.70 RC6 | Very Low | Low | photons and light_group is broken | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
photons are not working when used with a light_group. verified in NG posting in p.general a simple scene file is attached.
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25 | Animation | Definite Bug | 3.70 beta 32 | Defer | Low | Pause sometimes fails when rendering animation | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
There is an issue where the pause button in POVWIN will sometimes not work during an animation (primarily where the frame rate is high), and furthermore, POVWIN can then get into a state where it’s not possible to use the pause until it is re-started.
Newsgroup report.
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299 | Parser/SDL | Feature Request | 3.70 RC7 | Very Low | Low | Object Properties Feature | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
Up to POV-Ray 3.7 RC7 it has not been possible so far to declare custom properties for POV-Ray’s objects, which would be especially useful for complex objects defined in include files.
Currently, if you want to have an object (e.g. a car) with certain variable parameters (e.g. colour, wheel rotation, ...) defined in an include file and the parameters set by a scene file which uses the include file, you have to choose one of the following approaches:
1. use a macro
#macro car(colour, wheelrot, ...)
...
#end
or, 2. check parameters declared before, e.g.
#declare car =
union {
#ifdef (colour)
#local colour_internal = colour;
#else
#local colour_internal = default_colour;
#end
}
The resulting object would be used in the following way:
#include "car.inc" // include file once
object {
car(rgb <1,0,0>, 0, ...) // macro approach
}
// other approach
#declare colour = rgb <1,0,0>;
#declare wheelrot = 0;
...
#include "car.inc" // include file every time you want to have a car object instance
object {
car
}
Needless to say, both approaches are not quite optimal.
The macro approach needs only one #include directive and name conflicts will (hopefully) not be a problem. However, one would have to look up the parameter order of the macro in the include file, in the worst case every time the macro is used.
The other approach needs as many #include directives as car objects shall be instantiated, there can arise name conflicts with other inculde files used in the scene, and a (potentially long) list of parameters has to be declared before each #include. On the other hand, with this approach for any value it is clear which information it gives, e.g. #declare colour = rgb <1,0,0> can easily be read as ‘set car colour to “red”‘.
My suggestion would be creating an SDL feature to
One step up could be to even declare object classes along with them.
This could look like this:
// include file code
class car { // alternatively (without classes) use #declare car = object { ...
property colour = rgb <1,0,0>; // with default colour
union {
...
}
}
// scene file code
car { // alternatively (without classes) use object { car ... }
colour rgb <0,0,1>
}
Note that this solution makes the declarations much more concise and easy-to-read. Especially in scenes with many includes and animation scenes where objects’ properties have to be manipulated according to sometimes complex functions, this would be very useful. Please also consider that such user-defined objects can have dozens of properties.
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240 | Geometric Primitives | Feature Request | 3.70 RC3 | Very Low | Low | Object for efficient automatic periodic pavement | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
Whenever some object is to be periodically repeated in some kind of grid, you can achieve this with macros, but it a) wastes a lot of resources
even if object references are implemented in the future, wrapper with its own transformation matrix still takes space and bookkeeping
b) is not infinite
annoying when making infinite planar tiling with arbitrary objects
like an approximate water surface or tiling with real bricks
or anything that needs to extend to horizon
c) is not optimized for periodicity
I think it can be very efficiently implemented as an object that takes a finite object argument (like CSG functions) and can be periodic in either 1D,2D or (possibly dangeorous?) 3D with specified period. In each dimension, the number of repetitions can be any integer or even infinity (or max_int). Something like periodicity <2,2,Infinity> 2 copies in 1 direction, 2 in the other, infinite in the third grid_separation <1,2,2> 1 unit size in first direction, 2 unit sizes in the other two
All the code needs to do is raytrace in the current unit cell and if the ray passes uninterrupted, pass it through the neighbouring unit cell (which means trace a translated ray through the same object). The object itself would just feel an additional clipping box, everything else would work seamlessly.
In case of infinite column of transparent object, max_trace stops the infinite loop anyway.
This is just a suggestion, I realize this is more of a long-term change but it is quite easy to implement and would simplify a large number of projects.
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202 | Geometric Primitives | Definite Bug | 3.70 RC3 | Very Low | Low | Numerical oddities in Julia_Fractal | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
I understand that some things have changed in the way certain computations in POV-Ray decide when something is “good enough” and I think this is biting me in Julia_Fractal (where, of course, the highest-resolution computations are needed).
The bug has been posted here:
http://news.povray.org/povray.bugreports/thread/%3Cweb.4dbf2e26b56a53c15b4449250%40news.povray.org%3E/
Including a short .pov file and instructions that reproduce it.
(It pops up in other configurations and view angles as well, but this one captures in in a way that makes it clear it’s a bug: the distance of the camera from the origin appears to change the shape of the rendered object).
This appeared first on a Windows Server 2003 machine, it is apparently confirmable on at least one other system as per that thread.
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151 | Runtime error | Possible Bug | 3.70 beta 37a | Very Low | Low | No way to cancel save while parsing, never ending error... | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
On Windows, when I try and save a file while it is being parsed prior to rendering, I get an error, “Failed to save file: The operation completed successfully”, with a single OK button to click. Despite the weird wording, I’m OK with that.
However after clicking OK I get the error, “Failed to save file ‘...’“, with three buttons: Cancel, Try Again, Continue. Not sure what “Continue” means in this context, given that the possibilities would seem to be covered by the other two buttons. Whatever.
Also, sometimes I get a message with only a single “Retry” button. Not sure what the exact message was.
Anyway, the real problem is that, regardless of which button I press, the program continues to spawning the same error message endlessly. Luckily there is a delay between them, but still it would be nice to have at least one of the three buttons *stop* POV-Ray from asking me again.
Also, once the program finishes parsing the file and it becomes possible once again to save the file, it does nothing. I.e. it doesn’t save the file. So what’s the point of the message and all the options? Why not just say, “Unable to save the file, file is parsing” and be done with it?
I think I recall the same behavior in 3.6.2, so it’s nothing new that’s been introduced.
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226 | Geometric Primitives | Possible Bug | 3.70 RC3 | Very Low | Low | Near-coincident surface accuracy | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
This is a transparent box very close to a plane.
box {
-1, 1
pigment { rgbf <0, 0, 1, 1> }
}
plane {
#if (version < 3.7)
y, -1.0000007
#else
y, -1.00007
#end
pigment { rgb 1 }
finish { ambient 1 }
}
camera {
location <1, 2, 3>
look_at 0
}
The box is placed 100 times closer to the plane for 3.6, but both 3.6 and 3.7 produce exactly the same black artifact (attached).
So apparently 3.7 is less accurate. (And the exact factor 100 feels suspicious.)
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108 | Parser/SDL | Feature Request | 3.70 beta 37 | Very Low | Low | motion_blur feature similar to Megapov version | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
motion_blur which is a simple and effective feature to use in Megapov to simulate motion blur of, e.g. bird wings, propellers or running animals, would be a neat addition to version 3.7 and later.
In Megapov, the feature requires a line of code in the global_settings{} e.g.: motion_blur 10, 2 and a declaration for the moving object. e.g.:
motion_blur {
type 0
object{MyObject material{MyMaterial rotate x*clock*2}}
rotate x*clock*10
}
type represents several types of pre-defined motions.
Thanks,
Thomas
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196 | Subsurface Scattering | Definite Bug | 3.70 RC3 | Very Low | Low | More SSLT Caveats | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
when a prism is differenced with a primitive (cylinder in this case) if sslt is used it causes a seq fault. Reference distribution file logo.inc and the Povray_Logo_Prism definition.
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118 | Light source | Feature Request | 3.70 beta 37a | Very Low | Low | More efficient handling of fading lights | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
Currently, fading light sources are used for lighting and shadow calculations even when so far away as to no longer have any effect on the outcome. The proposed solution is to add a new keyword fade_cutoff_distance which tells povray to ignore the light source when alluminating a point at larger distance.
A sample implementation is provided in the attached files. These changes are still based on beta 34 as sources for the current beta are not yet available, and starting to merge changes to beta 35 only at this time didn’t seem worth the effort. Also, please disregard, changes in the CVS header comments (I also use CVS locally for managing source files).
Further considerations regarding this feature:
- For special effects this feature can also be used if the light source does not actually use fading. On the other hand, cutting the light at some distances can be considered an extreme form of fading which may justify the keyword name anyhow.
- Depending on how FS#46 is implemented, the test for cutoff may then be needed at another location as well.
- The default value currently is 0 (or *no* cutoff distance). For #version 3.7 of higher, the default could be chosen automatically based on the light source intensity and adc_bailout, although it may then need to be overriden by the user for extreme pigments.
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115 | Texture/Material/Finish | Feature Request | 3.70 beta 37a | Very Low | Low | More cutaway_textures | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
Think this is still a problem. See the attached scene file. Find the WindowFrameSegment declaration for more info. The scene as-is shows the problem (SOME portions of the difference inherit the color of the room) the window opening is scaled larger to show that they AREN’T touching. The problem goes away when (in WindowFrameSegment) the 1st occurrence of the applied texture is commented out and the 2nd occurrence is uncommented, and cutaway_textures is commented out.
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178 | Texture/Material/Finish | Feature Request | 3.70 beta 39 | Very Low | Low | Modify metallic reflection code to better work with con... | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
The combination of metallic reflection with conserve_energy causes the reflection to lose colour, as demonstrated by the following scene:
global_settings {
max_trace_level 10
}
camera {
right x*image_width/image_height
location <-2,2.6,-10>
look_at <0,0.75,0>
}
light_source {
<500,300,150>
color rgb 1.3
}
sky_sphere {
pigment {
gradient y
color_map {
[0.0 rgb <0.6,0.7,1.0>]
[0.7 rgb <0.0,0.1,0.8>]
}
}
}
plane {
y, 0
texture { pigment { color rgb 0.7 } }
}
#declare M=
material {
texture {
pigment {rgbt <1.0,0.7,0.2,0.99>}
finish {
ambient 0.0
diffuse 0.5
specular 0.6
roughness 0.005
reflection { 0.8, 1.0 metallic }
conserve_energy
}
}
interior { ior 1.5 }
}
box {
<-0.2,0,-2.3>, <0.0,4,0.3>
material { M }
rotate z*5
rotate x*2
}
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295 | User interface | Definite Bug | 3.70 RC7 | Very Low | Low | Minor GUI Bugs | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
Here are two low-priority bugs in POV-Ray’s GUI, observed by me under Windows XP, which should be easy to fix I think:
In the “Insert” menu, there are sub-menus (e.g. “Radiosity and Photons”) in which there are menu seperators at the end of the popped-up menu bar.
The progress bar in the top-right corner of the editor window seems to be too large for the window (203px) and therefore clipped. As a result, progress seems to be 100% when it is not yet, e.g. at 90% progress. (Have not measured exactly.)
Both bugs are not severe at all, but it would be nice if they could be fixed. By the way, a second progress bar could be added to visualize the number of frames already rendered in an animation.
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333 | User interface | Feature Request | 3.70 release | Very Low | Low | Make text in "about" alt+b dialog selectable with the m... | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
When you press alt+b or access the “about” dialog in the Help menu it displays some text including software version number and list of contributors.
It would be nice to be able to select and copy this text using this mouse. Sometimes in the newsgroup I have to tell people what version of POVray I am using, and typing the version number can be a pain.
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335 | Parser/SDL | Possible Bug | 3.70 release | Very Low | Low | macro works in variable but not in array | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
This doesn’t work:
#declare pavement_object = array[2] {
object {trash_can_macro() scale 3/4 translate -x * 1/2},
object {potted_plant_macro(_CT_rand2) scale 3/4 scale 3/2 translate -x * 1/2}
}
This does work:
#declare trash_can_object = object {trash_can_macro()}; #declare potted_plant_object = object {potted_plant_macro(_CT_rand2)}; #declare pavement_object = array[2] {
object {trash_can_object scale 3/4 translate -x * 1/2},
object {potted_plant_object scale 3/4 scale 3/2 translate -x * 1/2}
}
Logically, I cannot see a reason for this to be so.
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4 | Subsurface Scattering | Unimp. Feature/TODO | 3.70 beta 32 | Very Low | Low | Integrate Subsurface Scattering with standard lighting ... | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
Subsurface Scattering still uses its own rudimentary code to compute illumination from classic light sources; this must be changed to use the standard light source & shadow handling code, to add support for non-trivial light sources (e.g. spotlights, cylindrical lights, area lights), partially-transparent shadowing objects etc.
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6 | Subsurface Scattering | Unimp. Feature/TODO | 3.70 beta 32 | Defer | Low | Integrate Subsurface Scattering with Photons | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
Subsurface scattering must be made photon-aware.
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222 | Geometric Primitives | Definite Bug | 3.70 RC3 | Very Low | Low | incorrect render of CSG merge with radiosity | Tracked on GitHub | |
Future release |
Task Description
The problem arises when I am trying to trace a radiosity scene without conventional lighting that has a GSG merge object. There are a coincident surfaces, but these surfaces are first merged, then the texture applied. The texture is a simple solig color non-transfluent pigment, default normal, default finish etc..
Problem consists when adding antialiasing, changing resolution, changing camera view-point etc.; when I replace merge with union, the problem disappeared.
The scene was checked on two different machines with different versions of POV-Ray:
Gentoo Linux, kernel 2.6.39-r3, i686 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz GenuineIntel, 2G RAM (this is Dell PowerEdge 2650 server with 2 dual-core Intel Xeon MP processors); Persistence of Vision™ Ray Tracer Version 3.7.0.RC3 (i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ 4.5.3 @ i686-pc-linux-gnu)
Gentoo Linux, kernel 2.6.37-r4, x86_64 AMD Athlon™ X2 Dual Core Processor BE-2350, 2G RAM (non-branded machine); Persistence of Vision™ Ray Tracer Version 3.6.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ 4.4.4 @ x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
(scene has been adapted slightly to be rendered with 3.6, the adaptation was to change “emission” with “ambient” and replace gamma “srgb” with “2.2”)
Both machines generate similar images.
The attachment is an archive containing sources of minimal scenes with these problems, and sample pictures I generated from them on my machines.
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230 | User interface | Feature Request | 3.70 RC3 | Very Low | Low | Improved handling of animations | Tracked on GitHub | |
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Task Description
October to middle November, I prodduced a 5 minutes video mainly py POVRAY.
Here a part of the video.ini file
#
# szenes based on games.pov #
#game-pat #Initial_Frame=450 - time scale 1000 - 30 seconds #Final_Frame=899 #Initial_Clock=-12500 #Final_Clock=17500
#game-lost - time scale 1000 - 22 seconds #Initial_Frame=0 #Final_Frame=659 #Initial_Clock=2000 #Final_Clock=24000
#game-lost - time scale 3000 - 12 seconds - fast through the night #Initial_Frame=0 #Final_Frame=359 #Initial_Clock=24000 #Final_Clock=60000
#book-cover #clock=64000
#game-sunrise - time scale 1000 - 35 seconds #Initial_Frame=0 #Final_Frame=1049 #Initial_Clock=60000 #Final_Clock=95000
Now imagine all the problems:
One computer crashes often because of thermal problems. Last picture rendere 487.
Now calculate the setings, that this computer continues the task at 487
Or 2 computers should render a scene.
Sounds very easy. Something like computer 1 makes 0..499 computer 2 makes 500..999.
But the computers are different in speed and the pictures are very different in computation time.
So it would be best
computer 1: 0 to 999 computer 2: 999 to 0
They would meet in the middle, where ever this middle is.
So it would be much easier with
#game-sunrise - time scale 1000 - 35 seconds Initial_Frame=0 Final_Frame=1049 Initial_Clock=60000 Final_Clock=95000 Initial_Task=487 Final_Task=1049
So I have not to calculate the exact clock seting, when a computer sould continue a task after crashing at picture 487
#game-sunrise - time scale 1000 - 35 seconds Initial_Frame=0 Final_Frame=1049 Initial_Clock=60000 Final_Clock=95000 Initial_Task=1049 Final_Task=0
This would be the reverse calcualtion order. Starting with picture 1049 and going down 1048..1047
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