POV-Ray

It would be nice to configure an INI option to add render information like render time, date, and input file to output images.

It would be nice when quitting a render if the remaining space were filled with empty pixels. That way the partial render will still be viewable in all image apps.

There is a long animation to render.

computer 1 should render 0..799
computer 2 should render 800..1599

And after this, You have a bad surprise with the filenames.

animation799.png
animation0800.png

There should be a seting how many digits a file name in an animation should have.

This avoids, that there are series of pictures with 3 and other with 4 digit filenames.

BTW: All the experiences for this feature requests had been made during producing
http://roland.pege.org/2011-gusi-peace-prize/calculation-error.htm

I’ve recently been working with the netpbm ppm format and I have hit what I believe to be a bug in the way ppm files are read – very likely a bug in all netpbm formats. I am aware of the long standing povray issue with the netpbm file formats header where the height and width need to be on the same line as the magic number though that is not a requirement of the official format. This bug is different.

Namely in working with a larger number of ppm files I hit cases where a few would fail with the message : “Possible Parse Error: Unexpected EOF in PPM file” though the ppm files are fine. What is happening is that the first byte of data after the line feed (LF) (Ubuntu linux 12.04) happens to have a carriage return (CR) value.

The code which is set up to interpret the netpbm headers is reading a lines with “file→getline (line, 1024);” and this line reading code is pulling in the first byte of data with the CR value as part of the line. When the read by binary data, 8 or 16 bits at a time, starts, the povray read code is offset into the data by one byte too many.

The result from 10,000 meters, if input values were completely random file to file, would be netpbm read fails for size that make no sense in 1/256 files. In practice & depending on data some might never see fails while an unfortunate few might almost always fail.

I’d make some argument any CR following a LF character should not be pulled in as part of the line read even on windows/dos systems where CRLF is the usual line termination order. I think though the real fix is better netpbm header reading code which more strictly breaks apart the header on the first whitespace character doing the last depth break, aware of the file size, so it can decide what portion of any valid sequence of whitespce characters after the decimal depth value is data and not whitespace.

The attached tarball when unpacked has both a passing and failing case. To run “povray fails.pov” or “povray works.pov”. The only difference between the two ppm files if the fails.ppm data is all 0x0D while works.ppm data bytes are all 0x0C. The image rendered is meaningless.

Thanks for your time.
Bill P.

Include file golds.inc still provides warnings when parsed, a shame for a standard include file.
(colors.inc is ok, I did not test the other includes)

File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 118: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.
File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 119: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.
File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 129: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.
File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 130: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.
File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 140: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.
File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 141: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.
File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 151: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.
File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 152: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.
File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 162: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.
File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/golds.inc' line 163: Parse Warning:
 Expected pure RGB color expression, unexpected filter and transmit components
 will have no effect.

woodmaps.inc depends on colors.inc, more specifically the definition of the color “Clear” perhaps a #ifndef colors.inc belongs in woodmaps.inc or probably more correctly changing the call of “Clear” to rgbf 1

There already exist atan, atan2 and atan2d functions, why not atand?

Included math.inc into scene and recieved this fatal error from povray:

File '/usr/local/share/povray-3.7/include/math.inc' line 248: Parse Error: Expected 'string expression', float function 'vlength' found instead

Appropriate place in math.inc:

245 > #end
246 >
247 > // Distance between V1 and V2
248 > #macro VDist(V1, V2) vlength(V1 - V2) #end
249 >
250 > // Returns a vector perpendicular to V

Running newly-downloaded/newly-compiled POV-Ray 3.7.0, on Linux x86_64 system

It seems that the new area_illuminate flag for area lights does not take into account fade_power and fade_distance. The illumination falloff is still being calculated from the center of the light_source.

Here’s some relevant code:

camera{
  location<0,10,-10>
  look_at 0
}
plane{y,0 pigment{rgb 1}}
light_source{
  y*.1,100
  area_light x*10, z*1, 8, 8
  jitter
  area_illumination
  fade_power 2 fade_distance 1
}

The following scene reders differently with POV-Ray 3.7.0.RC3 than with POV-Ray 3.6.2:

camera
{
    right x*image_width/image_height
    location  <0, 0, -5>
    look_at   <0, 0, 0>
}

light_source
{
    <0,0,0>
    color rgb 1
    looks_like
    {
        box {
            <-1,-1,-0.1>, <1,1,0.1>
            pigment { wood }
            finish { ambient 5.0 diffuse 0 specular 0 phong 0 reflection 0 }
            scale 0.5
        }
    }
    translate <1,0,0>
}

plane
{
    <0, 1, 0>, -1
    texture
    {
        pigment { color rgb <0.5, 0.5, 0.55> }
        finish { specular 1.0 }
    }
}

See attachments for the output. As can be seen, POV-Ray 3.7 does translate the shape of the looks_like object along with the light source, but fails to translate the textures.

see my post titled: “area light and radiosity problem?” in povray.binary.images [Edit - copied that post’s text here - clipka]

wondering about what’s going on here with this series of images. the radiosity and area light settings are unchanged from image to image, and all I did was radiosity on/off and area_light on/off (btw: using rad_def “Normal” settings)

the 1st image is radiosity only, the 2nd is area light only, and the 3rd combines them:

what’s up with blotches? change #5819/5820 (octree) or maybe something still with area lights?

How to do it: (with raddem.ini & raddem.pov from distributed scenes, copied in local directory)

1. run “povray raddem.ini” until frame 6 or more (irrelevant, at least frame 1 & 2 are needed), interrupt the render.
2. restart “povray raddem.ini +C”

It fails at frame 2 with
Possible Parse Error: Cannot find file ‘raddem.pov’, even after trying to append
file type extension.
Parse Error: Cannot open input file.
Fatal error in parser: Cannot parse input.
Render failed

The detection of frame 1 is fine.

REcently I installed POV-Ray tracing software in my mac OS X version 10.6.8. When I run the software its displaying a fatal error occured and the error number is -43. I’m new to POV-Ray...pls help me guys...

When aborting a render when there are unfinished blocks among finished ones, under certain conditions some of those blocks are skipped when continuing the render later.

When using the ‘background’ directive with a transparent color, for example:

  background { color rgbt <0, 0, 0, 1> }

the final image is still opaque (both the one displayed in the render window and the PNG actually saved to disk).

Expected behaviour is for it to be transparent.

Files of exactly 4k length can cause a full crash exception when opened.

The parser is failing to read the .tiff file extension from the input string...

bump_map { tiff "earth03_hf2.tiff" }

Results in file not found, but

bump_map { tiff "earth03_hf2" }

will find the file. It might be that it’s not a three character extension?

Source code inspection during examination of issues with the scene published at http://povray.sitewww.ch/?p=177 show the following issues with current (beta.34) implementation of dispersion in POV-Ray 3.7:

• The same adjustment to the IOR that is applied at the very first dispersion interface is erroneously applied to all subsequent interfaces.

• As an exception, dispersion adjustment is erroneously not applied to any interface defined by the surface of a non-dispersing object embedded into a dispersing object.

While this still allows to use dispersion for artistic effect, it is neither physically realistic, nor does it match 3.6 behavior.

If you abort a render with ^C, Povray exits with a ‘success’ error code.

To test:

povray scene.ini
(^C to abort it)
echo $?

Right now 0 is returned (’success’). A non-zero value should be returned (’failure’).

This is particularly important for scripting, where command lines like:

povray scene.ini && halt

...can be used. I only want the halt to be executed if the scene renders successfully. If I change my mind and ^C it, I don’t want the machine to shut down!

From post in povray.general (circa 29 september 2010: “Maximum Resolution of Renders?”)

The ultimate goal would be a 41000×41000 image. However each time I have attempted to render that Pov-Ray has crashed on
me. Even when using a single, simple test object (a plain white sphere that
should use a single pixel). So I think this is running into a program limitation
at present.

It won’t be for the faint hearted: a 30500 x 30500 does still produces the bug, but you’d better have 24 GB of true ram to test it.
(it’s a render of a few “real” minutes if you do not swap, for any very quick scene (a 305 x 305 in 0.117s moved to 220s for 30500×30500 on my system when corrected))

With core-dumped enable, the issue is pointed in the creator of PixelContainer.
The problem is due to the resize() parameter: despite the parameter being a size_t (8 bytes long on 64bits), the computation ( h * w * 5 ) use unsigned int for h & w (and signed int for 5).

As a consequence, the value of resize is computed as a signed int... havoc might happen when the signed bit (#31) is propagated to the #63 to #32 of size_t... vector does not enjoy a negative value for resize (and destroy itself: no iterator on coming soon call! hence the crash when the values in the vector are to be initialised)

30500²: (in hex)

1 15 3C 71 50 floats
4 54 F1 C5 40 bytes

Basic solution: promote the 5 to an unsigned long, forcing the computation to happen on unsigned long, avoiding promotion of silly sign-bit, and keeping the resize’s value as a good number.

aka: resize( w * h * 5) becomes resize ( w * h * 5ul )

This solution has been tested and seems fine (it’s just that in base/image/image.cpp, there is a lot of resize()!).
For all resize(), the “ul” must be added. (and that means also that resize( w * h ) must be rewritten as ( w * h * 1ul ). )

While testing if the png support was working, I tried 3.7.0rc3 on NetBSD-5.99.45/amd64, and had the following problems:

1. lseek64 (used in source/base/image/image.cpp) is not portable, and not necessary on NetBSD (off_t there is large-file-safe)
2. unix/Makefile.am doesn’t add -lboost_thread to povray_LDADD, which breaks linking the executable.
3. vfe/unix/platformbase.cpp uses CLOCK_THREAD_CPUTIME_ID, which is not provided on NetBSD (I hacked around it by defining the symbol to “0”, but that’s of course not a correct fix).
4. vfe/unix/platformbase.cpp uses CLOCK_PROCESS_CPUTIME_ID, which is not provided on NetBSD – it’s called CLOCK_REALTIME like on FreeBSD, so we could just add defined(NetBSD) to the FreeBSD case, except for point 3.
5. vfe/unix/vfeplatform.cpp uses WEXITSTATUS. For this, sys/wait.h should be included. The obvious fix is
#ifdef HAVE_SYS_WAIT_H
# include <sys/wait.h>
#endif
but this also needs a check in the configure script.

Fixing all this, I get it to build, but core dump when run against the demo file from http://www.csb.yale.edu/userguides/graphics/povray/demo.pov.html.
Backtrace is
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0 0x00000000004ac479 in boost::gregorian::date::date ()
(gdb) bt
#0 0x00000000004ac479 in boost::gregorian::date::date ()
#1 0x00000000004d29f7 in boost::gregorian::date::date ()
#2 0x0000000000479a85 in std::vector<std::string, std::allocator<std::string> >::operator= ()
#3 0×0000000000461570 in std::vector<std::string, std::allocator<std::string> >::operator= ()
#4 0x00000000004656c7 in std::vector<std::string, std::allocator<std::string> >::operator= ()
#5 0x00000000005efc9f in Imf::TypedAttribute<std::string>::typeName ()
#6 0x00000000005fd890 in Imf::TypedAttribute<std::string>::typeName ()
#7 0x00000000005fe5d8 in Imf::TypedAttribute<std::string>::typeName ()
#8 0x000000000045d6dc in std::vector<std::string, std::allocator<std::string> >::operator= ()
#9 0x00007f7ffd80d9cf in thread_proxy ()

from /usr/pkg/lib/libboost_thread.so.1.45.0

#10 0x00007f7ffd00b24e in pthreadcreate_tramp (cookie=<value optimized out>)
at /archive/cvs/src/lib/libpthread/pthread.c:473
#11 0x00007f7ff8871780 in _lwp_park50 () from /usr/lib/libc.so.12

Please advise on how to proceed.

In POV-Ray’s documentation it says:

3.2.2.2 Max Image Buffer Memory
This INI parameter sets the number of megabytes of RAM to allow for output image caching. If the output image happens to use more than this, a file backed temporary image is used instead.

I used this INI file option because the default value (128 megabytes) seemed insufficient. pov-state backend files were always created and they were remarkably larger than the resulting image (bmp) files. Consequently, I set

Max_Image_Buffer_Memory = 3096

in the INI file so that POV-Ray should, according to the documentation, now be able to use 3 gigabytes of RAM so no backend temporary file would be needed at all (this large they were never).

However, while POV-Ray was rendering I still discovered a pov-state file and it still had a similar size.

Now I am confused: did the INI option not work or have I misunderstood the documentation? If the former is the case, that would be a bug, wouldn’t it?

I tested both under Windows XP and Debian 6.0.5.

Scenes starting with the incorrect syntax

version 3.7;

do not raise an error, instead they render a black screen with an empty scene warning.
#version should fail with an error when the # is missing.

When I try to re-render the insert menu bitmaps,on the Windows version 3.7b36 there is an error with the
Shapes.pov file.
line 474: Parse Error: Unexpected additional ‘.’ in floating-point number

line 474 is:

<2.6, 0>, <3.6.9>, <4, 1.1>, <3.4, 2>, <3, 1>, <2, 1>

The second vector has two decimal points
Change to <3.6,.9>

The current Windows version of POV-Ray does not fully support forward slashes in pathnames; specifically, POV-Ray fails to recognize drive letters when followed by a forward slash, e.g. “C:/foo/bar.pov” or “C:/foo\bar.pov”, rejecting such names for e.g. Input_File_Name.

A df3 file is written, with header 00 00 00 00 00 00 and no data (hypothetically valid df3 file).
This file is used as density file for media, using interpolation. This causes a crash once Pov-Ray starts rendering the pixels that contain media.
All pixels rendered before that render fine. Using no interpolation does not cause a crash.

Sample Scene:
#fopen out “random.df3” write
#write (out, uint16be <0,0,0>)
#fclose out

box{0,1 pigment{rgbt 1} hollow interior{media{
density{density_file df3 “random.df3” interpolate 1}}}} // interpolate 2 also crashes, interpolate 0 does not.

System: Win7 x64, 3.7 Beta 38

value is erroneously clipped to the range 0..1 before being displayed

I’d like to request the ability to create a date/time stamp on output images so that new renders don’t always overwrite old ones. Thanks.

In some cases it may be desirable to run POV-Ray from a batch file, without causing it to “steal the focus”.

I suggest making this dependant on whether POV-Ray is run with the /EXIT parameter.

At the moment in the Poly Object the maximum power is 15. The mathematics for converting the three parametric equations for x, y and z into a formula for the Poly Object require that the equations are squared several times given max-powers of 4, 8 and even 16. I’ve one eqaution that needs power 16. At the moment this is just one power short. Please raise this to 16. That’s all I ask for.

The documentation says:

“-J Sets aa-jitter off”

However, it seems to have no effect. -J0 will turn off jittering.

In vfe/unix/unixoptions.cpp, -V is defined as a synonym for -​-version, overriding its general meaning of Verbose=off.

I tried to use 3.7 RC3. This was my first time with 3.7.

I got source, configured and compiled it and installed into Debian with checkinstall. And then I tried to use it. First run was with -benchmark (it took about 9 minutes, ok). Then I tried very simple scene:

rekcahx@oah:~/pov$ povray +Iaa.pov
povray: This is a RELEASE CANDIDATE version of POV-Ray. General distribution is discouraged.
Failed to parse command-line option

I tried to debug with strace:

rekcahx@oah:~/pov$ strace -o debug.strace povray +Iaa.pov
povray: This is a RELEASE CANDIDATE version of POV-Ray. General distribution is discouraged.
Persistence of Vision™ Ray Tracer Version 3.7.0.RC3 (g++ 4.6.1 @
x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
This is a release candidate of POV-Ray version 3.7.0.
General distribution is strongly discouraged.

POV-Ray is based on DKBTrace 2.12 by David K. Buck & Aaron A. Collins
Copyright 1991-2003 Persistence of Vision Team
Copyright 2003-2011 Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty. Ltd.

Primary POV-Ray 3.7 Architects/Developers: (Alphabetically)

Chris Cason         Thorsten Froehlich  Christoph Lipka   

With Assistance From: (Alphabetically)

Nicolas Calimet     James Holsenback    Christoph Hormann   Nathan Kopp       
Juha Nieminen     

Past Contributors: (Alphabetically)

Steve Anger         Eric Barish         Dieter Bayer        David K. Buck     
Nicolas Calimet     Chris Cason         Aaron A. Collins    Chris Dailey      
Steve Demlow        Andreas Dilger      Alexander Enzmann   Dan Farmer        
Thorsten Froehlich  Mark Gordon         James Holsenback    Christoph Hormann 
Mike Hough          Chris Huff          Kari Kivisalo       Nathan Kopp       
Lutz Kretzschmar    Christoph Lipka     Jochen Lippert      Pascal Massimino  
Jim McElhiney       Douglas Muir        Juha Nieminen       Ron Parker        
Bill Pulver         Eduard Schwan       Wlodzimierz Skiba   Robert Skinner    
Yvo Smellenbergh    Zsolt Szalavari     Scott Taylor        Massimo Valentini 
Timothy Wegner      Drew Wells          Chris Young       

Other contributors are listed in the documentation.

Support libraries used by POV-Ray:

ZLib 1.2.3.4, Copyright 1995-1998 Jean-loup Gailly and Mark Adler
LibPNG 1.2.44, Copyright 1998-2002 Glenn Randers-Pehrson
LibJPEG 62, Copyright 1998 Thomas G. Lane
LibTIFF 3.9.5, Copyright 1988-1997 Sam Leffler, 1991-1997 SGI
Boost 1.46, http://www.boost.org/
OpenEXR, Copyright (c) 2004-2007, Industrial Light & Magic.

Parser Options

Input file: aa.pov
Remove bounds........On 
Split unions.........Off
Library paths:
  /usr/share/povray
  /usr/share/povray/ini
  /usr/share/povray/include
Clock value:    0.000  (Animation off)

Image Output Options

Image resolution.....320 by 240 (rows 1 to 240, columns 1 to 320).
Output file..........aa.png, 24 bpp PNG
Dithering............Off
Graphic display......Off
Mosaic preview.......Off
Continued trace......Off

Information Output Options

All Streams to console..........On 
Debug Stream to console.........On 
Fatal Stream to console.........On 
Render Stream to console........On 
Statistics Stream to console....On 
Warning Stream to console.......On 

[Parsing...]

Parse Time:       0 hours  0 minutes  0 seconds (0.001 seconds)
            using 1 thread(s) with 0.000 CPU-seconds total
Bounding Time:    0 hours  0 minutes  0 seconds (0.000 seconds)
            using 1 thread(s) with 0.000 CPU-seconds total

Quality:  9
Bounding boxes.......On   Bounding threshold: 3
Antialiasing.........Off

[Rendering...]

Photon Time:      No photons
Radiosity Time:   No radiosity
Trace Time:       0 hours  0 minutes  0 seconds (0.016 seconds)
            using 4 thread(s) with 0.036 CPU-seconds total

I/O restrictions:          disabled
X Window display:          enabled (using SDL)
Supported image formats:   gif tga iff ppm pgm hdr png jpeg tiff openexr
Unsupported image formats: -

Build architecture:  x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
Built/Optimized for: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu (using -march=native)
Compiler vendor:     gnu
Compiler version:    g++ 4.6.1
Compiler flags:      -pipe -Wno-multichar -Wno-write-strings -fno-enforce-eh-specs -s -O3 -ffast-math -march=native -pthread