POV-Ray

In unix distribution these scripts

• allscene.sh
• allanim.sh
• porfolio.sh

have the variable VERSION set to 3.6

For some particularly “heavy” SDL scripts, it might be desirable to override (or complement) the standard “Parsing 47110815K tokens” progress information with some more helpful custom info, e.g. “Planting trees... (37%)”, or “Generating terrain mesh row 47 of 500”.

The parser is failing to read the .tiff file extension from the input string...

bump_map { tiff "earth03_hf2.tiff" }

Results in file not found, but

bump_map { tiff "earth03_hf2" }

will find the file. It might be that it’s not a three character extension?

The commands:

povray +i /home/ronis/Nm=500/povray.00001.pov

or

povray +i/home/ronis/Nm=500/povray.00001.pov

fail with: povray: this pre-release version of POV-Ray for Unix expires in 2 day(s) and 1 hour(s)
Failed to parse command-line option

Going to the directory and simply running: povray +i povray.00001.pov
works.

I came across this by accident trying to get emac’s povray mode to work; apparently it passes the full path name to povray.

I don’t think there is a problem in 3.6.1

After a recent update on the POV-Wiki the GuMax skin doesn’t recognize MediaWiki:Common.css entries.

Bounding box computation for CSG intersection appears to be broken when one member is an arbitrarily transformed plane.

POV-Ray 3.6.2 has the same problem (can’t test for 3.6.1).

// +W640 +H480 +MB1

#include "transforms.inc"

camera {
  location  <-0.2, 0.5, -4.0>
  direction 1.5*z
  right     x*image_width/image_height
  look_at   <0.0, 0.0,  0.0>
}

sky_sphere {
  pigment {
    gradient y
    color_map {
      [0.0 rgb <0.6,0.7,1.0>]
      [0.7 rgb <0.0,0.1,0.8>]
    }
  }
}

light_source {
  <0, 0, 0>            // light's position (translated below)
  color rgb <1, 1, 1>  // light's color
  translate <-30, 30, -30>
}

plane {
  y, -1
  pigment { color rgb <0.7,0.5,0.3> }
}

intersection {
  sphere {
    0.0, 1 }
  plane { -x, 0 transform { Shear_Trans(x,y+x*0.3,z) } }
  texture {
    pigment {
      radial
      frequency 8
      color_map {
        [0.00 color rgb <1.0,0.4,0.2> ]
        [0.33 color rgb <0.2,0.4,1.0> ]
        [0.66 color rgb <0.4,1.0,0.2> ]
        [1.00 color rgb <1.0,0.4,0.2> ]
      }
    }
    finish{
      specular 0.6
    }
  }
  rotate -y*5
}

When rendering a series of scenes (e.g. animation, or render queue in POV-Ray for Windows), number_of_waves is not properly reset to its default value between scenes, causing the parameter to default to the value set by the previous scene.

For instance, rendering the following scenes from a queue will cause “arches.pov” to be rendered differently the second time:

1. scenes\textures\finishes\arches.pov
2. scenes\textures\normals\normavg.pov
3. scenes\textures\finishes\arches.pov (again!)

The parser does not accept mesh objects (or CSG objects including a mesh object) as a parameter to the inside() built-in function, reporting error “Solid object identifier expected”, even if the mesh is “solidified” by specifying an inside_vector.

(see news://news.povray.org:119/4a983716@news.povray.org)

It appears that reflective bounces from blobs are
not incrementing the trace level, causing self-
reflecting hall of mirror portions to stall renders.

I have installed POV-Ray 3.7 beta 34 on Windows 7
The setting ‘Output_Alpha=on’ doesn’t work as documented. With this setting the Background appear black and the scene is transparent.

Check with this Code:

camera {
   location  <3, 3, -3>
   direction <0, 0, 2.9>
   look_at   <0, 0, 0>
   right 1.0*x
}
light_source { < 3, 3, -3> color red 1 green 1 blue 1 }
sphere 
{
   <0,0,0> 0.8
   pigment {color rgb<1,1,0>}
   finish
   {
      ambient 0.2
      diffuse 0.8
   }
}

and with this ini file:

Input_File_Name=C:\Users\dfv_rei1\AppData\Local\Temp\Cuadrigula\PreviewObject.pov
Output_File_Name=C:\Users\dfv_rei1\AppData\Local\Temp\Cuadrigula\PreviewObject.tga
Output_File_Type=t
Output_Alpha=on
Bits_Per_Color=24
+W121 +H121
+a0.3
+q11
+a

(This happens as of beta 34)

The following scene will cause POV-Ray to allocate memory until all available memory is used, resulting in an Out of Memory error message:

#declare n1 = normal
{
    crackle .5
    scale 0.001
    accuracy 0.0001
}

#declare n2 = normal
{
    bumps 0
}

camera
{
    location <0, 0.2, -1>
    look_at <0.4, 0.3, 1>

    focal_point <0.4, 0.3-.0, 1>
    blur_samples 25
    confidence .9
    variance 0
    aperture .05
}

light_source
{
    <-10, 10,-5>, rgb 1.5
    area_light x*2,y*2,7,7 orient adaptive 2
}

sphere{ <0, 0, 0>, 0.5 pigment {color rgbf <0.85,1,.95,1>}

    interior
    {
        ior 1.5
        fade_color rgb <0.0, 0.5, 0.0>
        fade_power 2
        fade_distance 10.5
        dispersion 1.1
        dispersion_samples 100
    }

    normal {

        checker normal{n2} normal{n1}
        scale 0.1
        warp { spherical }

    }

    translate z*1
} 

The attached TIFF file was created with IC using compression. When used in an image_map, POV-Ray 3.7.0.beta.34 on Windows XP x64 renders the image all transparent, while POV-Ray 3.6.2 renders the file fine. The same effect can be seen with LZW-compressed TIFF files created with Adobe Photoshop 6.0.

Uncompressed TIFF files created with either IC or Photoshop render fine in both versions of POV-Ray.

Stepping through the code of POV-Ray 3.7.0 shows that the same code path is taken regardless of compression, but the libtiff library returns different alpha channel values, indicating a problem in that library. POV-Ray 3.7 still uses libtiff 3.6.1, whereas the POV-Ray 3.6 branch has been updated to libtiff 3.8.2, which according to the change history includes a few alpha-related changes.

Source code inspection during examination of issues with the scene published at http://povray.sitewww.ch/?p=177 show the following issues with current (beta.34) implementation of dispersion in POV-Ray 3.7:

• The same adjustment to the IOR that is applied at the very first dispersion interface is erroneously applied to all subsequent interfaces.

• As an exception, dispersion adjustment is erroneously not applied to any interface defined by the surface of a non-dispersing object embedded into a dispersing object.

While this still allows to use dispersion for artistic effect, it is neither physically realistic, nor does it match 3.6 behavior.

Add a way to get and set font metrics.

Attached an image that shows what I’m talking about.

Thanks!!

Improve native support for 2D primitives. Ideally a 1:1 mapping of SVG primitives/shapes. They go a long way to making diagrams look a lot better. Having to create image maps based on externally created bitmaps slows the workflow down a lot!

In POV-Ray 3.6 (including 3.62), checker and cells patterns are off by 0.001 (1e-3) units, as can be demonstrated with this scene:

camera {
  location  <0.0, 0.0, -5.0>
  direction 1.5*z
  right     x*image_width/image_height
  look_at   <0.0, 0.0,  0.0>
}

box { <-1,-1,0>, <0,0,1> pigment { checker color rgb 1 color rgb 0 scale   0.2 translate <-0.5,-0.5,0> } finish { ambient 1 diffuse 0 } }
box { < 1, 1,0>, <0,0,1> pigment { checker color rgb 1 color rgb 0 scale   0.2 translate < 0.5, 0.5,0> } finish { ambient 1 diffuse 0 } }
box { < 1,-1,0>, <0,0,1> pigment { checker color rgb 1 color rgb 0 scale 200.0 translate < 0.5,-0.5,0> } finish { ambient 1 diffuse 0 } }
box { <-1, 1,0>, <0,0,1> pigment { checker color rgb 1 color rgb 0 scale 200.0 translate <-0.5, 0.5,0> } finish { ambient 1 diffuse 0 } }

The same can be demonstrated for the cells pattern.

POV-Ray 3.7 beta 34 is “clean”.

The configure script for unix uses a dumb string compare to test whether libpng version is 1.2.5 or higher, leading it to reject (for instance) libpng 1.2.27 and unnecessarily compile and statically link the older libpng version it comes with.

Scenes starting with the incorrect syntax

version 3.7;

do not raise an error, instead they render a black screen with an empty scene warning.
#version should fail with an error when the # is missing.

Windows 7, Home Premium 64bit
In Options/Editor Window/Editor Preferences/Language Tabs
saving a tab size of 4 does not work - on restart it reverts to the default of 8

In Options/Editor Window/Editor Preferences/Misc
saving a Line numbering style of Decimal and a Start number of 1, does not work, on restart the defaults are restored.

Hello,

when I use an image_map within a pigment_map (for example only a half of a box gets the image_map), the image_map is not rendered correctly.

For example when I have this box (scene and images are attached)

box {
	0, 1
	pigment {
		gradient z
		pigment_map {
			[0.4 image_map { png "test.png" } ]
			[0.4 color Cyan ]
		}
	}
}

So on the front you should see the image of test.png (in the attached scene it’s just red).
But on some pixels of the front you see the cyan color of the distant half of the cube.

Rendering the scene mutliple times produces the same result.

Rendering the scene at 200×150 is sufficiant.

povray +W200 +H150 scene.pov

I tested it with 3.6.1 and 3.7.0 beta 32 on Linux

Cone is not on good place when first base point is lower then end cap point.
Example:

cone { <0, 0, 0>, 2, <0, 1, 0>, 1 } - good
cone { <0, 0, 0>, 1, <0, 1, 0>, 2 } - bad

This is on 3.7 beta 35 version.

The following SDL code

sphere {0, 1 pigment {image_map {png "missing.png"}}

yields “render failed” in 3.7b25 and the position of the error
is not highlighted in source code, giving no clue what went wrong.
In 3.6 this yields “Parse Error: Cannot open PNG file”.

When I try to re-render the insert menu bitmaps,on the Windows version 3.7b36 there is an error with the
Shapes.pov file.
line 474: Parse Error: Unexpected additional ‘.’ in floating-point number

line 474 is:

<2.6, 0>, <3.6.9>, <4, 1.1>, <3.4, 2>, <3, 1>, <2, 1>

The second vector has two decimal points
Change to <3.6,.9>

The #switch directive isn’t parsing correctly. In the following construct NO warning or error is generated:

#switch (RF)

case (0)
	rotate z*355
#break
case (144)
	rotate z*7.5
#break
case (216)
	rotate z*5
#break

#end

RF is a variable passed to the macro in which this construct resides. The first ‘case’ action IS executed, but none of the others are on successive calls to the macro. If I properly add ‘#’ to the second case the 1st and 2nd condition are executed but not the last. If ‘#’ is REMOVED from any of the break directives an error is generated and parsing halts.

POV-Ray 3.7 does not show output options, such as:

Output Options
  Image resolution 640 by 480 (rows 1 to 480, columns 1 to 640).
  Output file: D:\foo\test.png, 24 bpp PNG
  Graphic display......On  (gamma: 2.2)
  Mosaic preview.......Off
  CPU usage histogram..Off
  Continued trace......Off

(the above is what 3.6 used to show)

Mosaic preview display didn’t work as expected, given these command line options: +sp64 +ep16. The preview was solid colored instead of the coarse preview that you’d expect.

I’ve tested a fix to unix/disp_sdl.cpp from clipka and it appears to work.

The included scenes\advanced\benchmark.pov (v1.02)is different then the winpov menu render\run benchmark (v2.01).

The winpov menu render\run benchmark is missing some objects, turned off in early betas?

Assuming there are no performance issues, it would be nice to tell Povray to select the pixels to render randomly, so that the image gets filled in gradually instead of from top to bottom and from left to right.

Also, maybe an option to tell it to render every Nth pixel.

Request #BREAK statement inside #WHILE and #FOR loops.

Request a system variable to test whether a scene file has been included by another scene file.

For instance:

#if (is_included)
  camera {...}
#end

In POV SDL it can sometimes be ambiguous what exactly a macro returns. An explicit #RETURNS statement would make this unambiguous.

Currently, arrays may contain only one object type. Would be nice to eliminate this restriction and allow arrays to contain objects of different types.

Currently, many POV scenes/include files behave differently depending on the basic units used within the scene. Scaling them differently can affect things like ior and media. A master system variable that users can set to configure the scene’s units would be beneficial for sharing and collaboration purposes, so that person A’s glass interior works correctly in person B’s wine glass scene. Just like the #version system variable, it should have a default value but should be possible to explicitly override.

There are various scripts around the Net meant for approximating things like isosurfaces and parametric objects using meshes. It would probably run bit faster and be easier to use if this were supported natively within Povray. The feature would require an additional object parameter in order to toggle this behavior on/off.

It would be nice to configure an INI option to add render information like render time, date, and input file to output images.

Using the concat function is tedious. Why not just have an operator with which to concatenate strings?

“Hello " + “world!”

“Hello " . “world!”

Would be nice to have a “Delete” option in the File menu to delete the current file from disk.

The ability to specify an exact name for output images during animations would be great. As it is, POV-Ray appends a numerical designation to each image (e.g. image001.png, image002.png, etc. Overriding this behavior would allow certain tasks to be accomplished without cluttering the hard drive. For instance, an image could be rendered over and over again. Certain things like cellular automata, ripple tank simulations and feedback fractals could be performed without the resulting long list of images in a given directory.

The command line option could be in the form of +oefile/+Output_File_Name_Exact=file or some such.

Macros are finicky about how you type your code. What works outside macros sometimes fails inside them. For more information see the threads:

“Problems with macro (3.6)”, in p.a-u, 06-09-10
“Bad operands”, in p.g, 05-20-10

Still not sure *what* exactly the problem was, but one of my workarounds ended up working.

In POV 3.6 you could set the Statistic_File option to a custom file and folder path. In the beta I get an “Cannot open file” error. Has the feature been intentionally removed or did it become broken?

The documentation entries for shapes.inc, shapes_old.inc, shapes2.inc, shapesq.inc, etc. should have thumbnails next to the object descriptions.

In the tray icon, I’d like to see the render progress indicated somehow icon itself. Either a set of numbers (percents), or a change in color of the icon (e.g. from top to bottom). Something like the attached images.

Windows allows you to associate programs with file extensions using the “Open with” file manager right-click menu extension.

I’m running Windows 7 64bit, and installed the 64 bit versions of 3.6.2 and the beta appropriately.

A couple of problems that I haven’t tested very thoroughly:

1. If you have both POV 3.6.2 and the beta installed at the same time, you can no longer using this dialog change the association to the beta once it has been created for 3.6.2. There’s no error or anything; it just opens the file inside 3.6.2 instead. Maybe because both versions appear as “POV-Ray for Windows” to this dialog? Would adding the version number to the name fix things? Anything I can do on my end of things to resolve this?

2. In POV-Ray 3.6.2, I can use this dialog to open *.inc, *.txt and other files in POV-Ray, but only if POV-Ray isn’t already running. If POV-Ray is already running I get an “Only /EDIT and /RENDER may be passed to previous instance” error. Files with the *.pov extension open properly regardless, without any error. I am unable to test this in the beta at the moment due to the first problem unfortunately. Could someone please test this with the beta and confirm whether the behavior also exists?

3. With the POV-Ray 3.7 beta, entering the following command in the command prompt results in the same error:

   "C:\Program Files\POV-Ray for Windows v3.7\bin\pvengine64.exe" "D:\Working\Povray\GearHead\LoadingScreen\btr_maanji.pov"

If I change it to the following it works however:

   "C:\Program Files\POV-Ray for Windows v3.7\bin\pvengine64.exe" /EDIT "D:\Working\Povray\GearHead\LoadingScreen\btr_maanji.pov"

Is this error/behavior really necessary? Would it be OK to instead change the behavior when the /EDIT flag is omitted in the
command-line such that the file is opened in the editor by default, without throwing an error?

Currently, cameras placed inside object or union statements will halt the render with an error. Take for instance the following case:

#local temp_camera_1 = camera
{
  orthographic
  location  z*-12
  direction  z
  up    y
  right    x*image_width/image_height
  scale    32
}

#local temp_light_1 = light_source
{
  0
  color rgb 1
  translate <-30, 30, -30>
}

#local temp_light_2 = light_source
{
  0
  color rgb 1
  translate <-30, 30, +30>
}

union
{
  object {temp_light_1}
  object {temp_light_2}
//  camera {temp_camera_1}  // doesn't work!!!
}

//object {temp_camera_1}  // doesn't work!!!
camera {temp_camera_1}  // works!!!

Changing this behavior would make it possible to more easily apply transformations to scene objects and the camera at the same time in situations where the scene’s frame of reference is in motion relative to the rest of the scene, for instance in animations.

Installation script (from sources) when run with a classical “sudo make install” would create povray.ini & povray.conf in $HOME/.povray/3.7 (so far so fine) with the owner as root and the permission to readonly for the real user.

Same goes for the owner of the 3.7 directories tree : .povray & .povray/3.7 are created with root owner, despite being in $HOME of the performing user.

Please fix ?

Test bug for checking features of flyspray.

...for instance nVidia’s CUDA architecture, discussed here and other places.

General consensus is that it’s not worth the effort if only a partial set of POV-Ray’s features are possible.

I’d like to request the ability to create a date/time stamp on output images so that new renders don’t always overwrite old ones. Thanks.

the quick_color feature doesn’t work when +qN or Quality=N is set to 5 or below

From post in povray.general (circa 29 september 2010: “Maximum Resolution of Renders?”)

The ultimate goal would be a 41000×41000 image. However each time I have attempted to render that Pov-Ray has crashed on
me. Even when using a single, simple test object (a plain white sphere that
should use a single pixel). So I think this is running into a program limitation
at present.

It won’t be for the faint hearted: a 30500 x 30500 does still produces the bug, but you’d better have 24 GB of true ram to test it.
(it’s a render of a few “real” minutes if you do not swap, for any very quick scene (a 305 x 305 in 0.117s moved to 220s for 30500×30500 on my system when corrected))

With core-dumped enable, the issue is pointed in the creator of PixelContainer.
The problem is due to the resize() parameter: despite the parameter being a size_t (8 bytes long on 64bits), the computation ( h * w * 5 ) use unsigned int for h & w (and signed int for 5).

As a consequence, the value of resize is computed as a signed int... havoc might happen when the signed bit (#31) is propagated to the #63 to #32 of size_t... vector does not enjoy a negative value for resize (and destroy itself: no iterator on coming soon call! hence the crash when the values in the vector are to be initialised)

30500²: (in hex)

1 15 3C 71 50 floats
4 54 F1 C5 40 bytes

Basic solution: promote the 5 to an unsigned long, forcing the computation to happen on unsigned long, avoiding promotion of silly sign-bit, and keeping the resize’s value as a good number.

aka: resize( w * h * 5) becomes resize ( w * h * 5ul )

This solution has been tested and seems fine (it’s just that in base/image/image.cpp, there is a lot of resize()!).
For all resize(), the “ul” must be added. (and that means also that resize( w * h ) must be rewritten as ( w * h * 1ul ). )